—UPDATE Friday 8th May—
We can now reveal that it appears we have confirmation of the age rating. As reported; our source close to the production of Terminator Genisys (as far as we are aware- has been right about all the exclusive stories we have been able to bring you) has been telling us for a long time that the movie is PG-13. Today we decided to do the tedious job of trying to reinforce our latest story and also to confirm its truth. On finding the Hungarian website of Terminator Genisys the following ’12’ is new to the website. We looked up Hungarian movie ratings and a 12 (in Hungary) is indeed the same rating as a PG-13 (US) and a 12/12a also in the UK. This will now allow fans worldwide to pinpoint what rating the movie will be in their country!
— UPDATE END —
One of the most annoying things about the lead up to the release of Terminator Genisys has been the rating hold back.
So, what rating will the movie be? A PG-13 or an R rating- the latter being the rating that all the real fans wanted in the first place.
Well, our source close to the production of the movie has assured us all along that the movie will be Rated PG-13… we have described what we have witnessed and understand as fantasy style/comic book violence as being the back door out of a harder rating for the movie, CGI characters dealing the blows is something running throughout the movie,- not just in the Arnold Vs Arnold battle. We asked our source again more recently and they are still sticking with PG-13; with our source describing it as “something the studios prefer to do for marketing reasons”. Our understanding and translation of such a statement is… “cash grab”.
While we have reported that small changes had been made to visual effects sequences to make them slightly more brutal (fan backlash? lol) it in no way means that it will be as brutal as the fans want or deserve. Whilst the more finished renders of CGI do indeed have a little more blood; it simply isn’t the level of blood that lives up to the name of the franchise.
Also, we have no way of knowing that the slight additional blood we have seen (in behind the scenes footage) isn’t meant for an Unrated/R Rated home release and that the theatrical cut will probably feature no blood as depicted in the trailers.
The Rating hold back feels somewhat deceitful and if the movie is PG-13 (as our source states) then the rating hold back is, overall, a carefully crafted yet cynical marketing ploy, as the studios know, and have known, for quite some time,- what the rating of the movie will be.
Fans were treated like fools with Terminator Salvation when a Pizza Hut viral website revealed the rating; the studio responsible (Warner Bros/Halcyon) also did a rating hold back job. The aim is to suck you in, to grab your interest, to mentally commit you as a fan to a ticket sale/online booking or reservation and then in the last month or two before release- announce the rating as a PG-13 movie but by then you’re invested so you’re going to let it slide and pay to see the movie anyway.
Executive Producer of Terminator Genisys; Megan Ellison, promised us a rated R movie but after she took her production company Annapurna out the mix and headed swiftly for the hills, she seemingly but grudgingly handed over control to her brother David Ellison and his company Skydance Productions with distribution help from Paramount Pictures. David and Paramount love making PG-13 movies together… GI JOE: RETALIATION anyone?
Skydance’s GI JOE: RETALIATION PG-13 Rating Description (expect something similar for Genisys minus the martial arts unless the T-1000 does martial arts?):
PG-13 (for intense sequences of combat violence and martial arts action throughout and for brief sensuality and language)
Btw we thought that movie sucked. SUCKED!
Megan Ellison obviously wanted little involvement when Jim Cameron turned down the chance to Direct/be involved.
It is no secret that an Annapurna Pics Terminator movie was a very interesting prospect to us but the Skydance Productions and Paramount take-over really worried us and made us lose hope almost instantaneously. That isn’t to say Paramount hasn’t produced/distributed good movies in the past, the problem is the time we live in, the targeting of young audiences to earn money. More focus on whipping out a fast product than putting any real time and effort into a fantastic movie; one made with love and care.
Game of Thrones has also been used as a marketing ploy with Alan Taylor and Emilia Clarke’s involvement… yes, a TV series of violence and sex, used to make you think Terminator Genisys could indeed be rated R. It is totally ridiculous to use such a program to gear towards a younger audience- again,- especially given the content involved in GOT.
The big surprise would be if the Fan uproar managed to alter the rating to an R and they plan to surprise us (especially with movies like Mad Max Fury Road being announced as rated R). Thank you Warner Brothers for finally learning your lesson after making that huge mistake with Terminator Salvation.
An R rating obviously does not ensure a movie will be good, but movies like Terminator and Mad Max need to be rated R to stand any chance of a good footing with hardcore fans and long term success.
I saw Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines roughly 3-4 times at the cinema; I did this to support the movie as a fan and also in aid of trying to persuade myself to like the movie, it didn’t work, I then did the same with home release purchases.
While T3 was R rated- it was so soft an R that the removal of the scene of the T-X punching a cop through the seat of a car and handling the wheel of the car,- would have instantly dropped the rating from the R to a PG-13.
Terminator Salvation earned itself one cinema viewing (from myself) and healed a little of the damage caused by T3, but it was void of the R rating and felt like a very long trailer, as if half the movie had been smashed into post-apocalyptic dust.
Obviously TheTerminatorFans.com’s staff members will be watching Terminator Genisys, but sadly for the first time ever, it feels illegitimate and arrogant from the side of the studios… to the third degree.
One fan described the majority of hatred and ignorance coming from the “new era fans”, we describe them as wannabe hipsters, they don’t really care about the Terminator franchise and you will see them typing sentences like; “Mother of Dragons!” and “House of Connor!” all over the internet with dizzying glee. We quite simply dislike them as much as they dislike us, but when they throw themselves Fedora first into their next fad or TV show/franchise- the real fans will be left sitting saddened, disappointed and empty by the PG-13 hip tripe left to us by studios more concerned with what’s trending rather than what’s true.
We don’t believe in PG-13 Terminator movies and never will. Do you believe greatness can be achieved with the softer rating or would the PG-13 rating make your furious?
As always with the stories we run things are always subject to change at the whim of a studio executive.
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Yes I saying I definitely Terminator Genisys will certain be rated-“R” only. Very Fuck The PG-13! Hope Terminator Genisys will better than Salvation
We most need about rated-R in it. Thank you @Theterminatorfans.com
You are not far off…
PG-13 Terminator is NOT a Terminator and will never be. I acknowledge that It could
be a good movie or at least decent, but definitely not an excellent or cult one.
Greatest example is the Expendables 3. I was so much in love with the franchise
until I saw the latest PG-13 installment. We got a child friendly sh.t instead
of a series of domestic violence and beauty and greatness based on the 80s
action flicks. I don’t give a damn about PG-13 movies.
If it the script warranted an R rating, it should of got it but only the people making it know that.
It’s probably not even going to do 100 million domestic. This went from being the possible revival we hoped to being the final nail in the coffin.
I really do also agree that this franchise should go back to being R-rated. Megan Ellison already got us fans excited for this. She obviously (even though no longer involved) has contact with her brother, and it wouldn’t hurt to remind him of this. “R-rated like God intended it to be”, or something like that I recall her stating about T5 even before the production of Genisys started. And look what happens when a film’s content is watered down, lied about or misled by a movie studio? You get box results like “The Thing’s” prequel, where the fans were promised practical effects with the creature and got CGI. I feel that Genisys still has a chance of getting things going again. By now though, they MUST know what a Terminator fan wants from ALL generations. We all want a great visual ride, but we want a good story with suspense and emotion to hook us in as well. It ‘can’ be done with PG-13, but it will be much harder to do properly. The R-rating is what the original hardcore fans (like myself) are used to, and frankly what we deserve. This is something that they should have learned already with Salvation and its lackluster box office performance. I still love each entry, but I do know where the problems lie in the latter ones.. Genisys seems has the potential to go either way. So I say push hard to please the fans that have been supporting the franchise all along. Don’t pander to certain newer audiences that ultimately, may only have limited interest in these films to begin with. All in all, just make the best possible film and it will find its largest audience by its own merit.
If the people who run this site are shitting on the movie then I’m really not too optimistic about this movie. I agree with everything mentioned in this particular post. There is so much wrong with this movie, and it was obvious from day 1. When I first heard Megan Ellison was involved I was overly excited. I immediately thought, wow, a Terminator film with substance, character development, and a solid plot. The moment she left and Skydance took over I thought, shit, a crappy Transformers movie! It’s been downhill since. PG 13, Jai Courtney, crappy marketing, rumors of a shitty script, two terrible writers involved in this film – Drive Angry, anyone? Complete shit!
Of course I’ll watch this movie because I am a die hard Terminator fan. Hell, I watched Salvation 3 times opening week to convince myself it was a good movie. It wasn’t the worst movie ever but it was very, very weak. This movie had potential. I don’t watch GOT but I thought Emilia might pull it off, I like Jason Clarke, I’m glad Arnold is involved but with mediocre writers and cookie cutter companies like Skydance involved, it doesn’t look too good…. and that’s a damn shame.
I think deep down we knew the whole time that it would be PG13 or a 12 in the Uk.
I watched both T1 and T2 when I was a kid and those films were brutal when it came to the violence as they were clearly R-Rated. This along with great story telling meant those 2 films are classics. Give it a few more years and I think we’ll get another reboot.
Would love to be proven wrong and Genisys turns out to be fantastic.
Genisys could be rated R and it will still bomb. The franchise is completely dead now. Box Office takings for this movie are going to be poor.
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I have a feeling that if it is reduced to PG13 it is because the film makers and censors know that not matter what rating it has, kids will still view the film. That being the case, the makers have had to turn the film in to a Star Wars kind of film, with friendly Terminators and furry HKs flying around. I think perhaps the heydays of 1985 are in the past.
I don’t think we’ll be exposed to extreme human suffering, limbs, blood or gore or anything like that. It’ll be more of a Transformers movie imo, with newly invented Skynet metal monstrosities that belong more in a kids toy box than being considered realistically viable as an awesome fighting machine designed with the super processing power of Skynet and their ‘Grey’ scientists.
I hope I am wrong but you guys are succeeding in putting the willies up me too.
James Cameron please come back and save this franchise
he works in avatar movies
I watched T1 and loved it. I watched T2 and loved it. I watched T3 and fell asleep. I watched T4 and it was okay- not a Terminator movie though- but still okay… I will watch Terminator Genisys and I know what it’ll be,- I know I’ll feel disappointed and disheartened, I know I’ll feel sadness pooling in my solar plexus… I know I’ll eventually feel somewhat abandoned, betrayed and misled. I know with all my heart that Terminator Genisys will have the same effect as T3 and T4- it will make me appreciate T1 and T2 as the cinematic gold they always were and always will be. Expensive (and tasteless) marketing will NEVER change that for me. I am a TERMINATOR FAN. I will NOT eat shit with a smile.
Fuck the pretenders. R is for the real fans. PG-13 is a ride for little kids with sticky fingers and hipsters with waxed mustaches reading trendy magazines on scooters.
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Let’s face it, we knew it’d be PG-13 as soon as we saw the first pics of battle-damaged Arnie. Like Marcus in T4, he looks like someone with some photoshop done to his face. Without the proper damage to the flesh, it just looks incredibly fake.
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My problem with PG-13 is not necessarily the lack of violence. Blood deos not a good movie make. AVP-R anyone? The bigger problem by far is that PG-13 movies usually don’t have that adult, mature tone and atmosphere of an R movie. PG-13 movies have that harmless appeal to them in order to not shock younger audiences too much. This results in adult audiences not caring about what’s happening on screen since it’s all cartoon action and fun and games anyway.