A source close to the production of Terminator Genisys showed us an image of the CGI 1984 Arnold Schwarzenegger that is reportedly being used in the next Trailer for Terminator Genisys which is rumored to hit this April… It is far more impressive than the previous 3D models we have seen… full rendering; hair, sweat and, if it was possible to do bad breath in CGI,- that would probably be there too (maybe a scratch and sniff edition of the movie will come for home release – joking obvs).
We saw the close-up (as seen below) of 1984 Arnold on his arrival when he stands and surveys his surroundings with a scan of his eyes from left to right before walking to view the entire of LA from Griffith Observatory.
The above image best depicts what was seen but with his head facing right (our left).
It looks like Skydance has put the necessary money and time into creating a digital character that does justice to the young Arnold (The Terminator).
The character continues to have a #KenDollTerminator appearance (no genitals) but we don’t feel it does any major injustice, maybe we should appreciate it for being weird, it will probably look rather unnerving as he paces towards Schwarzenegger’s older Guardian Terminator. The Terminator will also have facial battle damage come a certain point in the fight but this will not stop him trying to Terminate Arnold’s Guardian.
Our source close to the production also stated that:
We will see more advanced CG Arnold renders/shots and the Spidertank/HK in action.
Sounds good to us…
The source continues to state what you will see in the trailer…
CG Arnold (will look much tidier and neater in the next trailer) : Shots are obviously a reproduction from the 1984 movie setting (Stage) and the new modern day fight scene twist: You will see CG Arnold getting attacked by Guardian and you may see, for the first time, the Face Damage CG Arnold version.
We saw a practical effect 1984 Arnold head a while back and the idea was to totally remove 1984 Arnold’s nose completely but the studio deemed this a little OTT. It has never been done before and may have appeared too dark or comical in early tests, but yes, a practical effect Arnold was going to be used in this fight but it was decided that the CGI was going so well that it was best to portray the original planned practical effect Arnold as CGI… that doesn’t mean practical effects won’t be in the movie as Legacy Effects were hired for that very reason.
Legacy Effects will be collaborating not only with the studio (to offer perfect 3D scans of it’s practical creations) but also, as we reported Legacy will be collaborating with collectible companies like Chronicle Collectibles… without doubt these will be the most accurate and some of the best quality Terminator figures and collectibles yet.
Our source states that the trailer is also planned to show us more of the Spider HK in action and we may see those exclusively reported back-and-forth style guns in action…
One shot of the Spidertank in action (dropping from the HK, impact on the ground and shooting at Guerilla soldiers with his two back/forth guns. That shot is pretty violent looking! The new kickass Trailer should be released around April/May…
HK weaponary: Gatling Guns: One in the front and one in the back, so when it stops shooting in the front it can reassign itself to the back pilot and as it becomes the rear it will shoot with the back Gatling guns set.
We obviously reported that changes took place which would mean that even Guardian will also be fully CGI for some shots of the fight.
We managed to pull together some artistic representations of early CG Arnold shots before the fight started to have changes made.
Obviously the new image we witnessed was a still frame of the 1984 sequence but is the most fully formed and finished cgi from the movie we have seen to date… the last CGI shots we saw were of the 1984 Terminator running (sans genitals) at the Guardian (modern day Arnold) the former we nicknamed the ken doll Terminator. We don’t think fans will be disappointed in the Terminator’s facial appearance in Terminator Genisys. Obviously the decision to remove the Terminator’s ‘package’ has come under some criticism, whatever the final decision is on the matter it might not be that peculiar if done right… after witnessing crotchless Arnold it doesn’t really stick in the mind as a bad thing it’s just different and that is what Terminator Genisys wanted to be… different. Regardless of if Ken Doll Arnold makes it to the final cut… we just thought it fair to introduce you to the idea so it doesn’t interrupt the flow of the Arnold Vs Arnold Death Match with confusion.
Jai Courtney has also been talking about wearing a ‘cock sock’ in recent interviews about his nude scenes. The 1984 Terminator double also wore a ‘cock sock’ to conceal genitals before cgi magic will remove them completely.
Brett Azar is the body double of the young Schwarzenegger (pictured below on set)
Time for another ‘Terminator Selfie’…
We can also confirm that the recent Terminator Genisys test screening (which went down well with test viewers) featured the Arnold Vs Arnold battle sequence… remember that even while a test screening has been carried out,- work still continues on the VFX of Terminator Genisys… so that means all the VFX work you saw in the trailers will be refined and improved upon… this can be seen in a number of trailers the most notable recent vfx changes in a trailer came from Jurassic World. It was important for the studios to get a public opinion on the fight sequence and obviously it is one of the most important sequences in the movie to get right, especially after Arnold’s digital appearance in Terminator Salvation was a total anti-climax, but we understand that the resources available now were not available to the Halcyon Company at the time, financially or technologically. Not doing the infamous 1984 scenes justice would simply be unforgivable.
As always we have not blown the entire movie open as we want you to enjoy what you see. A lot of our stories are now being confirmed as factually correct at the time they have been published.
What we can tell you is 1984 Arnold might be having his face blasted (battle damaged)… via Guardian Shot Gun blasts…
Also addressing the new Latino Review story ‘claiming to be Exclusive’ that Matt Smith could be SkyNet… we reported this back in November last year!
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No matter how cool the movie end up being ( and i want it to be great!) no matter how awesome the 1984 fight ends up being; i just cant get the idea of a ken arnold through my head… You guys talk about things that might be or not laughing matters, but i cant think of a more ridiculous thing that the crotchles terminator… If the render is indeed crotchles, the in the final film THEY MUST… MUST use fog or camara angles to hide the fact… Or a narrative element (shot on the legs or similar) that will remove the crotch on the film… I must disagree, being different doesnt mean being absurd… That image wouldnt leave peoples mind through the whole movie… AND become ridiculed…
Concept art from Terminator Salvation. The same concept artist works on Terminator Genisys!
Does this make it easier to imagine?
Omg.. Stop writing about “ken doll”.there is no evidence. Why do you need genitals in film? Terminator’s cock will be dimming anyway! Why do you raise such a silly topic and discredit yourself as serious source?
We have seen “ken doll” but we are respecting the studio. We try to execute stories tactfully and with respect. We HAVE seen evidence but did state this could change as other changes have occurred.
I actually trust the guys here at the terminator fans… I do trust their info and sources… And that is why i fear the ken terminator… Because, like in salvation, i know their renders feature no genitals…
What I couldn’t forgive is for them to actually show the terminator like that… IT HAS to feature fog or shadows… Or camera angles that hide the “emptiness”…
“Trust me”. Regardless of what happens with Ken Terminator/Ken Doll Arnold/Crotchless Terminator… it really doesn’t look bad in still images. We need to remember that Genisys is an effect heavy movie, they want to out-do the effects of T2. Arnold stated this himself.
We are firm believers in distance shots/backshots for CGI characters like this but Skydance want to take us right in there… It’s an artistic choice… they may use shadows or particle effects but the images we saw clearly show nothing down below. It might actually be one of the darker/wierder things in the movie.
If people can accept major casting changes bar Arnold Schwarzenegger why would they be so unwilling to accept a crotchless Arnold?
It was also tactfully decided by us that we introduce the nude Terminator to the fanbase as we knew people would need time to get their heads around it.
I tend to agree here.
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