*This article contains SPOILERS
We interviewed Young Terminator (T-800 / Schwarzenegger stunt double) Brett Azar, about his involvement in Terminator Genisys and the controversial opening scene of Terminator: Dark Fate in which the T-800 CSM-101 (who later goes by the name of Carl) successfully completes its objective and terminates John Connor as a child.
Scroll down for our full interview (video)
Linda Hamilton Taking Control of Dark Fate Scene
Brett explained his training for the role of young Carl and also talked about how Linda Hamilton took control of the scene; bringing her knowledge and experience of the Sarah Connor character to make necessary changes to the scene…
TheTerminatorFans.com:
“You uploaded some videos to social media recently, of yourself practising for THAT scene, you know, where you kill John Connor in Terminator: Dark Fate – did it take you long to choreograph and train for that scene?”
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Brett Azar:
“No. That was the simple, you know, the Terminator walk – I had that down from [Terminator] Genisys, it was just the timing, what I uploaded was just the walk and a very simple, like, shrug.
Brett Azar told TheTerminatorFans.com
There was gonna be- we were working on the fight of how Sarah Connor was gonna react and what she was gonna do; that all changed on filming day ‘coz we were just uh, it was really… Linda Hamilton really took control of Sarah Connor’s reaction to that, because she was there for it, she wanted to see- like, she wanted to make sure that it was as intense enough to be believable for her, she was so… personal with that reaction of seeing John shot, and she wanted to make sure that it was done justice, so she took control of that whole fight scene and uh, it was funny ‘coz we were doing the fight rehearsal and her [Linda Hamilton / Sarah Connor] stunt double, Maddie, did what we were choreographing, and she [Linda] goes ‘No, no no! It’s gotta be- you know, she knows, she’s smart. She’s not gonna just try to punch this guy in the head; it’s not gonna do much. She’s gonna go after the gun – she knows the gun is what’s gonna do the damage’.
So, she goes like ‘Okay Brett, get into your position and… ‘ so I walk up and I hold the gun and she jumps on my back, grabs the gun barrel and elbows me in the lip, and turns around and scratches my face – she clicked into Sarah Connor and it was so cool! But she was beating the sh*t outta me. So after that she clicks out and she goes: ‘See! That’s how it’s supposed to be!’ and then she was like ‘Oh my god, Brett, I’m so sorry!’ and I was like ‘No, don’t worry, they CGI my face – do whatever you want.’ So, she was so cool.”
Linda Hamilton’s embodiment and portrayal of the character of Sarah Connor has now spanned decades, and she of course knows her character better than anyone else.
It’s great that Linda cared enough to be hands-on with the character and was strong enough to voice her concerns on Terminator: Dark Fate; especially with a scene which needed digital trickery / younger body doubles like this.
Tim Miller Convinces Brett Azar to Kill John Connor
At first Brett was hesitant about the scene but after speaking with Terminator: Dark Fate Director Tim Miller, he was ready to achieve SkyNet’s ultimate mission… the termination of John Connor.
TheTerminatorFans.com:
“Was it good to film that scene or did you find it difficult, I mean, the death of John Connor has been extremely controversial within the fanbase – did you find it difficult to film that scene, emotionally and mentally?”
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Brett Azar:
“When I first read it, and I was like ‘No, I can’t do this’ and, I was with Tim Miller and he goes ‘Don’t think of it that way, think of- you’re the one who gets to do this.’ I was like, ‘Alright, that’s pretty badass,’ like I’m- I, hashtag I killed John Connor, yeah, so that is truly, in terms of the franchise, that is the biggest honor that I’ve ever, you know, felt.
Brett Azar told TheTerminatorFans.com
That I can be that scene, um, the way they did it, I actually- I loved the way they did it, you know, ‘coz it’s the shock and awe that wakes you up right from a start… “
Brett Azar also talked passionately about Terminator as a member of the Genisys / T:DF team but also as a fan of Terminator. Brett like many fans is keen to see more Cyberdyne Models (T-800’s with different likenesses), even expressing an interest in playing a CSM-110 with his own likeness in a future re-dominated by SkyNet for a future war Terminator movie centered around the origins of CSM-101.
Watch the full interview in the video below.
Also, if you want to jump into the time displacement equipment – you can take a trip back to 2015 when we previously interviewed Brett for Terminator Genisys by clicking here.
16 Comments
Of course, they are just actors. They get money to play this scene. They are paid for that.
This scene is just disgusting. I never want to see the scene again. She annoyed me and made me depressed for a while. But I said to myself: This was not a Terminator story, it was some garbage from people who have no idea about the thematic mass psychology of the fans. You’ve annoyed tens of thousands of fans around the globe. And they all hope the “Dark Fake” flops so that at least one sequel will be spared us.
It’s not what the fans wanted to see and not what other people wanted to see. A repetition and endless loop with new names and stupid casting (Dani as Leader) She does not come close to Edward Furlong’s or Michael Edward’s incarnation, which is just ridiculous and sad that they seek feminism and hope for sympathy because she is Mexican ). The opposite is the case.
I’m a fan, and I loved the movie. Stop projecting. Not every fan is like you. The movie was great, and John’s death set the stage for Carl’s existence, since John no longer mattered.
You are not a fan! You are a crook! and idiot! The plot for the movie was written by stupid and absent minded people. So you are the same like them! This movie has nothing alive! All is staged on computer. People looks stupid! Women safes the future look horrible! Mexicans , women and Carl … what can be more idiotic to invent?!
Nah it was good. There was no Skynet war for John to oppose. The story was always Sarah, and this was compelling motivation. Drop the nostalgia.
I can also tell a dog that he should make meow like a cat. The dog will still bark.
Dark Fake is not a terminator for me, just as the movies after T2 were not. And many agree with me, as I agree with many other fans.
Dark Fake is a dog that wants to be a cat.
not the actor’s fault, they are bided by a contract and they do not see the script beforehand
Terminator made billions last weekend even tho its last movie
The movie bombed. R.I.P.
“Get woke, go broke”. Dont support feminism in movies. Hit them with the money loss, they will stop.
IMO ultimately i don’t have a problem with them killing off John to pass on the torch to the next generation of heroes, okay if that’s how you wanna the story to go then do it, what I DO have a serious problem with is how they mishandled the whole thing and turned it into a cheap shock horror mess that contributed to this movie failing at the box office (don’t deny it you know it’s true), they could have handled the killing/death of John Connor with a lot more poise and class, instead they just unceremoniously took a piss on the older fans, probably knowing full well the anger it was gonna spark (why piss off the in-built and loyal customer base ? seems like a fashionable trend these days), this scene was unnecessary and in poor taste.
(not to mention ridiculously contrived given what we know of these two characters in-lore, just for one example: where were the dogs to sounding the alarm ?)
i heard that they would have approached this with a lot more care if Edward Furlong was in shape and ready to film but he wasn’t (couldn’t they find another actor ?) so they went with that crap.
overall as a standalone sci-fi action i actually enjoyed Dark Fate but a worthy post-T2JD successor it wasn’t in any way.
in terms of VFX and Suspension-Of-Disbelief the movie kinda falls apart during the Airplane scenes and the Underwater scenes, some of the CGI is really not up to standard to say it softly, especially whenever Arnold and the Villain are smacking into each other, add on the normal human characters (Sarah and Dani) suddenly developing outright superhuman durability and stamina during those two back-to-back scenes (more at home in a Fast & Furious series), at one point shaking off 2 very close by grenades inside a closed, hard space and swimming up to the shore as if they were mermaids (seriously it looked very cartoony), not to mention scaring off a raging metallic beast that is the Rev-9 with a normal 9mm pistol while being trapped underwater.
on the bright side the final fight/battle is actually epic (really liked the team-work of Mackenzie and Arnold) so it’s not as 100% bad as many others are screaming, but the villain did get a little bit too talkative for a Terminator baddie at the end.
I agree! A woman is not supposed to kill! That is always look stupid! A woman has to give a life! Only a man is a real warrior! As it used to be!
SO “controversial” it lost the movie over $120 MILLION $$ and destroyed the franchise. Good job…. *slow clap*
I saw the film Terminator to current and loved them all no matter what the movie takes in money wise to me it made sense to me Terminator is second to Star Wars. I loved every second. Also I’d bring it to digital and blu-rays directly. All Terminator films as a bonus box set…
idiot!
It was good, not great. I felt the casting was good except the girl who was the future leader, it was just unrealistic to have this tiny woman being a leader against machines. I didnt care that they killed John off I thought it was cool seeing that kind of flash back thing, they were trying something new but making a 5ft tall woman that looked like a kid the future leader was just idiotic.
The action scenes were amazing though, they were top notch and I liked the whole idea of the human utilizing mesh as armor and such, that was brilliant, makes her character more believable and realistic since she’s enhanced and that girl was awesome, nailed her part.
Tim Miller made out of Terminator a funny movie! Thank you! He just crossed up all the stories and made up his own! Completely stupid and absolutely idiotic!
I am happy that all this movie is a fail! Terminator 6 will be forgotten and noone will ever try to look it over.